Batman Forever
Why are Batman Forever and Batman and Robin criticized so much as movies?
I take it you like both movies, so I’ll play a little devil’s advocate with you:
First, I think it’s a mistake for people to lump them both together. I did *not* think Batman Forever was that bad at all, really. It was a respectable effort based on some modern comic book takes. (Remember, Batman has been in multiple books for most of a century). It wasn’t as serious or dark as I would have liked, but I thought the writing was acceptable and in some ways quite good. It would have been better if Lee and Jan Batchler’s script had been left alone, and Akiva Goldsman hadn’t been allowed to monkey with it.
Batman And Robin, different story entirely.
Remember, “A bad movie can be made out of a good script, but never the reverse.” Everything always begins with a script. And Akiva Goldsman’s script was absolutely vomitous. He does well when he’s adapting someone else’s book, i.e., A Time To Kill, A Beautiful Mind. But when he has to write something for the screen from ground zero on his own–Lost In Space, Batman And Robin–the results are downright awful.
Next, I for one just don’t care for gay movies. Batman Forever flirted with it, but Batman And Robin just jumped in the sac and went hog wild: The nipples weren’t the half of it. (This has nothing to do with gay people, so please don’t anyone go all off-topic and start calling me names.)
–It’s just, for me, all the flashy colors, all the neon, gratuitous butt shots, gratuitous crotch shots…it’s just not my cup of tea. Tomato, tomatoe. Such a treatment certainly didn’t belong in the dark, foreboding world of The Batman. Batman has an established canon that cannot be messed with in good faith by anyone.
“Yea, but what about the 60′s?”
–The TV show was a reflection of what the comics were like in the 60s! And good for it! We all love it for its nostalgia! *But that was also 50 years ago!!!”
Batman is not, was never, all about the visuals. I hate Tim Burton’s take on it every bit as much as Schumacher’s. (However, I didn’t think Batman Returns and Batman Forever were nearly as bad as Batman, and Batman And Robin. The difference was in *the writers*.) Batman has a rich and glorious legacy that is 110% about *story*. No one but an accomplished storyteller has any business touching it.
…And to that end, for the perfect cinematic take on Batman, look no further than the master himself, Chris Nolan. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight were both perfect in every detail. Batman fans the world over owe him a debt of gratitude, and all need to lean on Warner Bros: they should get Nolan back for future films, and pay him whatever he wants.
Jim Carrey – Batman Forever – Edward becomes The Riddler
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McDonalds 1995 Clear 4 Glass BATMAN FOREVER Mug 1995 McDonald Mug. Mug shows Batman and the New York City Skyline. Approx. 4″… |
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Collectible Batman Forever Glass Drinking Cup Mug – 3 1/4 inches x 3 1/8 inches – Riddler etched on glass – From McDonalds $9.99 Collectible Batman Forever Glass Drinking Cup Mug – 3 1/4 inches x 3 1/8 inches – Riddler etched on glass – From McDonalds… |
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McDonalds Batman Forever Robin Glass Mug Made in France These glasses were sold in 1995 solely thru McDonalds and are highly collectable…. |
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Ultimate Batman Collection [VHS] $9.97 … |
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Batman Forever [VHS] $14.99 When Tim Burton and Michael Keaton announced that they’d had enough of the Batman franchise, director Joel Schumacher stepped in (with Burton as coproducer) to make this action-packed extravaganza starring Val Kilmer as the caped crusader. Batman is up against two of Gotham City’s most colorful criminals, the Riddler (a role tailor-made for funnyman Jim Carrey) and the diabolical Two-Face (Tommy L… |
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Batman Begins Batmobile Vehicle $69.95 Black and stealthy–with rubber wheels and a rock-solid, plastic construction–this Batmobile looks and feels more like an armored tank. Atop the vehicle sit three red buttons. Press the first one, and an engine revs and a huge red light at the rear flashes. Press the second, and hidden missile launchers spring from either side of the car with a clatter. (You can easily fold them closed again.) Th… |
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